NYC Conservative Climate Activists

Who Are We?

We are a

  • conservative-leaning
  • market-oriented
  • pro-human
  • pro-technology
group that believes that climate change is a dire situation.

We organize lectures, movies, discussions and get-togethers in midtown Manhattan to discuss the science of climate change, and the engineering and economics of its solutions.

Solving climate change is a broad and complex topic to begin with, and there's no hope of making any progress unless we stay narrowly-focused without drifting into complete and utter irrelevancies like

  • reducing economic inequality
  • solving identity politics
  • immigration reform
  • health care reform
  • a job guarantee
  • a universal basic income
  • facilitating collective bargaining
  • environmental issues unrelated to climate change

One might argue that some of these things might be interesting ideas or even laudable goals, but they should be addressed separately, discussed in separate forums and legislated as separate, independent bills, and not in this group!

Facebook Group

Click here to apply to join the group and join in the conversation. Facebook requires us to have a Facebook page (as opposed to a group) associated with the ad, but pages are useless because only the organizer is allowed to speak there. Once you join the group, you'll be allowed to make posts and comment.

One Free Beer or Soda
For Attendees!
Meetup Event Series

This group holds regular events / lectures / get-togethers / discussions in Midtown Manhattan, organized via Meetup.  Click here to see a list of upcoming events, review past events, and join the meetup. One free beer or soda will be provided to all attendees.

Future Events:

  • Wedneday, November 6th: Networking and Movie Networking with the NY Alternative Energy Meetup, which is mostly people from the renewable energy industry, and presentation on climate science, by showing the climate skeptic movie "Climate Hustle" and explaining the rebuttals to the arguments it makes (and mentioning the things it got right).
  • December Event Date TBD: Desperate Measures: Geoengineering and Atmospheric GHG Removal Environmentalists mostly discuss energy conservation and curbing CO2 emissions, while geoengineering is a taboo idea that could cool the planet for a tiny fraction of the effort.
  • January Event Date TBD: Germany, California, France, and Sweden Germany and California have embraced wind and solar energy while phasing out nuclear, while Sweden and particularly France get most of their energy from nuclear. We'll discuss how this has worked out for them.

Past Events:

  • We showed and debunked the climate skeptic movie Climate Hustle.
  • Slide show on:
    • Popular climate skeptic arguments with rebuttals
    • The economics of the solutions to climate change
  • Visit by climate scientist Dr. Sharir Maasri
  • Germany's and California's experiences with renewable energy
  • How painful will reducing our carbon footprint be?
  • History of the climate change debate: movie "Merchants of Doubt"
  • Richard Ruins Everything: Berkeley physicist Richard A Muller's outrage at ClimateGate and investigation of the reliability of climate science.
  • Panel: "Legal Ramifications of Event Attribution": "Event attribution" is new field of study to determine precisely what proportion of extreme weather events can be blamed on climate change.
  • Lecture: A Zero-Carbon, Zero-Nuclear Economy by 2050. Stanford professor Mark Z Jacobson has been working for over a decade on his very detailed plan for a carbon-free, nuclear-free economy by 2050.
  • Lecture: Nuclear Energy by the organizer and nuclear engineer Herschel Specter.
  • Social get-together -- Discuss climate change over dinner
  • A Variety of Proposals for Dealing with Climate Change -- analysis of many different political proposals
  • Pro-Nuclear Movie "Pandora's Promise" and Discussion

What Is the Evidence?

The evidence is very strong and most of the public is convinced that global warming is happening, is man-made, and a serious problem. If you're not sure about that, we can discuss it: click here.

What Should Be Done?

Most of the environmental movement in this country leans very far-left, and they're the ones proposing most of the solutions to climate change.  Typically, these proposals are drafted without anyone to the right of Elizabeth Warren in the room.  As a result, the solutions one usually hears being bandied about are downright horrifying to the political right.

And, as we shall see, the solutions do not have to be market-hostile.

For a discussion of solutions, click here.

The Need for Bipartisanship

It will take several decades of sustained action to bring our emissions of greenhouse gases under control.  It is utterly unrealistic to expect one political party to control the government for anywhere near the needed length of time, especially when that one party currently has control of none of the 3 branches of government.

A state of affairs where one party, when in power, makes slow progress without any cooperation from the opposition, all of which is dismantled overnight when power changes hands, is unacceptable and inadequate.

We had 20 years of Democratic presidents from 1932 to 1952, and it took a Great Depression and a World War to bring that about, and even, then, Truman's re-election in 1948 was so close that he went to bed thinking he had lost.

The current state of affairs is that the left wants action on climate change, and the right is neither convinced nor cooperating.  In this context, one conservative committed to solving this problem is worth a dozen liberals.

People who want aggressive action on climate change are to be referred to as "climate activists".

The people on the other side are to be referred to as "climate skeptics".  This includes not only people who claim that no warming is going on (such people are becoming pretty rare), but also people who believe that warming is occurring, but no action of any kind is warranted.

We will try to avoid the term "climate deniers". Calling someone a "denier" is no way to start a remotely civilized conversation.

Climate skeptics are welcome to attend, but people who are rude, shout, or interrupt will not be tolerated.

We take what Al Gore says with a grain of salt.  He's a politician with a background in law, not a scientist.

Nuclear energy will be discussed, pro and con.

Geoengineering will be discussed, but only in terms of something that is not currently being done, as a possible future strategy to reduce warming. We will not be discussing conspiracy theories about how white trails currently seen behind jets in the sky contain anything other than water vapor.

Many environmentalists think that the whole problem will be solved if we just buy a lot of solar panels and windmills.  It's nowhere near that simple -- the transition of our energy sector is a difficult and fascinating problem, and we will be discussing the engineering and economics of alternative energy.

Interview With the Organizer

This 5-minute interview was done by a bunch of students at the New York Film Academy as a class project. One of the students was asking questions, but he was completely edited out. The actual interview when on for at least 45 minutes, which they edited down to about 5 minutes.

The editing was pretty good, but the organizer forgot to mention an important part of the story about the panel about a carbon tax. The sentence about the panelist began with "One of the environmentalists foamed at the mouth for three minutes about how he hated everything about 'markets', 'markets' were just awful" and then the panelist's sentence ended with "even if I were talking with a conservative, not that that would ever happen, I wouldn't describe a carbon tax as a 'market friendly' solution.".

Online Discussion

We encourage discussion on the meetup event pages and in the Facebook group.  Rude comments will be deleted at the organizer's discretion, as will comments by people who won't be attending, especially if they are running down the topics.

Video Policy

Links to videos more than 10 minutes long will be allowed in the Facebook group or on the meetup message boards, but not on pre-event discussion on meetup events (the organizer will delete them).  The problem with people posting long videos is that they aren't skimmable, often go on and on without getting to the point, and deter attendees from showing up because they feel unprepared unless they sit through them.

If you want to share a video, do so in the Facebook group, or create a thread for it on the meetup message boards or on the Facebook group, mentioning why you think it is worth watching, and hopefully, how much time in to skip to for the part that you feel is relevant.

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